6. In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. 20 When you swear by the altar, you are swearing by it and by everything on it. You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. There isn't much out there on the web. Like I said, funny post, but a bit judgmental as well. 7 You hypocrites! No one is "born into the church." First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. Im still separate I have just decided to sin. This is because primarily I am a Bible Believer and if church doctrine of any individual church does not line with scripture, then this so called doctrine is nothing more than a vain tradition. If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) when you run into her at Wal*Mart. God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. I have scriptures on my walls that are from other versions. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). Webindependent Baptist, to place in the hands of members of independent Baptist churches to help them to know the meaning of church membership and to better understand the doctrines and polity of Baptists, and particularly the reasons why we are independent Baptists and not affiliated with one of the various and sundry organizations among I can count on one hand the number of IFBs whove asked for a discussion instead of attacking me. 16 Blind guides! And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. If you think anything what the churches teach about salvation is easy believing this is not true in our congregation. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels. (Matthew 22:15-22; 28:19-20;Romans 13:1-7). Independent Fundamental There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. A IFB member knocked on my door one Saturday and invited us to church. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support Im not sure where your pastor got that from, but its not in the Bible. Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. What sorrow awaits you! Complete Guide to Christian Denominations: Understanding the History, Beliefs, and Differences by Ron Rhodes. Its my calling and my ministry. N/A It didnt raise red flags for me. Or deciding not to clap for special music? You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. The problem is assuming intent instead of asking. You wont go in yourselves, and you dont let others enter either. If we must consider these points as a point for consideration, these ought to be a source form the Bible. If you think that the title Pastor is a synonym for the Man of God or the voice of God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. OMG! Why would I even send a lost loved one to church instead of sharing the gospel with them for that matter? We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. If you believe that the IFB isnt a denomination because they are Independent, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 37. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. The churches that teach certain things unrelated to scripture, are a result of what the Bible calls IN THE LAST DAYS. In the last days, people will leave their first love, just as you have left YOUR first love, probably because of a pastor, an arrogant church member, or maybe because of your very own relationship with God, a relationship that is lacking. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. If the IFB churches are hurting the cause of Christ, would your attitude and example also hurt His cause. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. I wanted to go to church but was not able to. So spontaneous but like it was planned. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. Jesus does that. 3 And why worry about a speck in your friends eye when you have a log in your own? Also God commands us to try the spirits to see if they are of God that implies God gave us the power of discernment 1 John 4: 1-5. We are happily married today blessed with 2 more children. 53. Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse? If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 32. Basically he was just marketing for his college. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. 7. I must forgive others the same way God forgave me. It uses the Bible to treat everything from porn addiction People can ask for clarification if they want. 9. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. No, because thats not Gods will. Ephesians 2:8-9 I dont see how. Steve, Im a 29 year old pastor of an independent Baptist church. If your child is behaving like a child but you think they are rebellious, misbehaving, mischevious, etc. Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. 2. The key is that youre not suppose to JUST sit under the teaching/preaching of anyone without reading the Bible, seeking wisdom from God, and fellow shipping with people who are interested in drawing closer to God. We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! We told to get married. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. If you attend a church that has a team of men who are charged with keeping an attendance count each Sunday, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 43. Gods will was for me to forgive. If your eyes quickly scan down to see if a fellow female church member is wearing the acceptable skirt, dress or koulotts outside of church, and Heaven forbid shes wearing capris or pants!! Same position regarding IFB belief 29. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. Everyone as an individual should get right with God in whatever he has commanded them. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. These Independent Fundamental Baptists appear to be inconsistent, and so misguided. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. Quite the contrary, I was searching for something else when I clicked on this link, so I didnt then and dont now come looking to argue. It is interesting that you refer to IFB as viewing divorce people as being inferior Christians and are forbidden to hold any leadership positions in the church looking to their Scofield Bibles for direction. If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. God forgave my husband through Christ. I respond to IFB jabs, sometimes that requires a jab back. 34. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? The IFB are Pharisees of our day. But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter and unhappy so I honestly feel badly for you. Point is that we are to edify with love and meekness all brothers and sisters in Christ, not criticize in front of a lost world. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: It made me think of this, Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Its a shame, but whattayagonnado? We believe that , lesbianism, bisexuality, bestiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography are perversions of God's intended purposes and therefore, sin. I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. To love Jesus is to love his word and follow his commands because we love him. For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. We believe in the autonomy of the local church free of any external authority or control. If you believe that perfection is something to strive for and/or attain this side of heaven,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I grew up in a baptist church and went elsewhere after college and I am learning how liberal other churches are and anything goes as long as the people are happy. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. Doctrinal Statement - independentbaptist.church Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. 19 How blind! Thank God for grace! They had made an idol out of church attendance. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. I can forgive people for offenses committed against me. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. 5. Southern Baptist Beliefs Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. I do not know if laugh or cry , almost 30 yrs involved in this , Im still a Christian , I serve in my church , Ive learned more since I left the movement , I am happier more devoted Christian than when I was manipulated to go out soulwinning , bus driving ,Sunday school teaching etc. [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. A church that has tract rack I dont know what they are for but my old church has one for storing hymn books (or hymnals), pew bibles, bible study books, etc. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. It seemed more like an attack on what the Bible says about life than on a denomination. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. N/A Wow! The Bible is our sole and final authority for faith and practice. They are usually so full of themselves, because they went straight from salvation to knowledge, and Peter says to add to your faith virtue, and THEN go to knowledge, 2 Peter 1:5. Growing up in a very conservative IFB church, I can personally attest to how accurate most of these were. Back then, you had to wear your Sunday best. Ive used tattoos but not permanent ones. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. Ill fight against the abusive traditions and teachings of the IFB till I die. These are right on the money! Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. On the Arminianist view the church I go to now teaches from a biblical standpoint that salvation can still be lost. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). When this life is over, it doesnt matter! If your pastor is a true scholar of the Bible and is on fire with eagerness to teach it, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. I do think that you can drink but you just cant be drink which is a legalistic problem within most Independent Fundamental Baptists. anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. What your pastor told you is extremely dangerous and silly. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. You might be an IFB if Your child has went to church there 3x a week, his whole life, but when he leaves the church, your to have nothing to do with them. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. Landlord Cody Johnson later agreed not to evict Stedfast Baptist from the Watauga location after communicating with Stedfast's lawyer.[15][16]. I remember our pastor asking us if we could forgive each other, and praise the lord we forgave each other for the offenses committed against each other. Hypocrites! Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. If you think anything other than a suit and tie for men is too casual for Sundays, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 11. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. If you refuse to use any other Bible version than the KJV because you think its either too worldly, sinful or less accurate,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 4. Youre judgment of me by one blog post and its comments is typical IFB tactic. Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. While God hates divorce, but we should help those who are divorce so they can grow spiritually. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. Gospel Furthering Fellowship *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Its NOT ABOUT US! This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. We just look for a biblical church to go to. Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. WebNo denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. God values his word, even above his own name, and when you or I meet God, what we think means nothing to God, unless it lines up with His Word. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. 11. You should have, instead of adding a dozen or so of your comments, said If you believe everything in the Bible, you might be an Independent Baptist. Please correct me if Im wrong, but arent we supposed to follow the teachings of the Bible, such as tithing? We believe that the souls of the redeemed are, at death, absent from the body and present with the Lord, where in conscious bliss they await the first resurrection, when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with the Lord (Luke 23:43; Revelation 20:4-6; II Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; I Thessalonians 4:16-17). As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated co We as a couple decided to do things biblical. Just because we forgive people doesnt mean we are obligated to marry them or anything else. WebThe 1920 Baptist Fundamentals declared, The fundamental principle of the Baptists, in common with many other evangelicals, has always been the gospel, which is the essence If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. Also, please scroll up for additional information regarding your objections which Ive responded to ad nauseam. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. I agree that God can use anything and anyone to reach people, but I can guarantee that the IFB has ulterior motives. We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God's preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. They were so grieved by the fact that they had broken a 30+ year record of being at church three times a week. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! 8. If you believe that attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 36. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23), All born-again believers have the privilege of direct access to God. Jonathan I have a question for you..IF the wine is grape juice (as in the water Jesus turned to wine)HOW can you get drunk on it???? God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. Frankly its not your place to tell me what I should and shouldnt do (typical IFB who thinks they know what everyone is supposed to be doing). They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/.
Who Dies In Blue Exorcist,
Famous Duos In Literature,
Articles C
